When I’m asked about things I like to do, reading was one of the things that I’d mention. In reality, that’s not really accurate, especially if we mean deriving pleasure simply from the act of reading. That’s not me (unfortunately). To be more accurate, I like talking about what I’ve read, and I like learning, in general. This also applies to movies as well, although to a lesser degree, because watching movies is enjoyable in and of itself. Generally speaking, talking about books and movies might be more enjoyable to me than experiencing either. Because of this, the internet has been a place that has, until recently, held a lot of promise for me. When I read a book or watch a film, especially more obscure ones, I assumed that the internet would provide other people I could talk to about these books and movies, especially now with millions (billions) of people online. Given those numbers, finding others who have read or seen the same books and movies shouldn’t be hard, right? Now, not all of these people have an interest in discussion, but I thought the ones who did would constitute a big enough number to have a discussion. I’ve now concluded this is not the case (but I would love to be wrong about this!). To be clear, I’m not really referring to the currently most popular books and films. I think you can find conversations on those type of books and films, but if I want to find a conversation, right now, on Francis Ford Coppola’s One From the Heart, for example, forget about it. Why is that? Off the top of my head, here’s my short explanation:
1. While many people are online, and while many people like watching movies, the number of people who watch movies that aren’t currently popular is relatively small. I don’t know what the percentages are, but I’m guessing it’s fairly small. For the purposes of this discussion, let’s call these people “cinephiles.”
2. Assuming this is true, now consider the number of cinephiles who have recently seen One From the Heart, let’s say within the last two months. This is important because the cinephiles who have seen the movie outside of this time frame, especially far outside this time frame (i.e., years ago), are just like those who haven’t seen it. Why? In my experience, unless a cinephile really loves a movie they’ve seen a long time ago, they’re not likely to either a) want to talk about it, or b) remember enough to have a meaningful conversation. Only the cinephiles who have recently seen the movie will be able to discuss it meaningfully. And I’m guessing the number of these people are going to be really small as well.
3. Among the cinephiles who have seen the movie, we have to identify those who have an interest in discussing the movie. My guess is that the number is generally low for the following reasons: 1) the cinephile might not be the type who enjoys talking about films; 2) the cinephile might not have any strong opinions or strong desire to talk about the specific film. Because of this, we need cinephiles who generally like discussing films, and a cinephile who has a desire to talk about the specific film in question, in this case, One From the Heart. The desire has to be strong enough that they look for discussion, in person or online, about the movie. I’m going to guess this number now is really small. (Ideally, I would have used actual numbers and made specific estimates on each step above, but I was too lazy to do that.) If I took a wild guess, the number of these people might be around ten. It just occurred to me that Amazon would know how many people streamed One From the Heart, as it’s available on their site, within a two month period. Ten sounds like a reasonable number, and it actually sounds a bit high. (Of course, Amazon isn’t the only way for people to see the movie, but even if you include other means, ten seems to be a decent number.)
Still, if there were ten people that met the criteria above, that would be more than enough to have a good discussion online. Indeed, I think you could have a good discussion with just two people. This suggests to me that the problem involves having a space for discussion, and making people aware of this opportunity. Now, there are many websites where one can discuss specific movies, but something is preventing getting these ten people to the site. (I suspect the UI has a lot to do with this, but I don’t know the specific problems that need to be overcome.)
I recently spent a lot of time at Powell’s bookstore in Portland, and while I walked through the aisles looking for books, this thread came to mind. Specifically, my inability to find internet discussions about specific books and movies continues to confound me. Interestingly, I have found good internet discussions about the Seahawks. Maybe examining the differences between the Seahawks discussions and specific book/film discussions would prove fruitful.
For one thing, I imagine the people interested in talking the Seahawks is a lot larger than the number of people who want to discuss a specific film like One from the Heart. Additionally, and equally important, large numbers of Seahawk fans would know current happenings with the team. If we compare a the week 1 game of the Seahawks versus the 49ers to a specific movie like One from the Heart, we can say with near certainty that far more people will have current information about the former than the latter. Finally, the level of interest, in terms of intensity, almost certainly is higher for a specific NFL game than the vast majority of books or films. If this assessment is correct, the existence of lively, internet discussions about the Seahawks, but not discussions of specific books or films, especially one’s that aren’t popular, isn’t surprising.
Having said that, the the number of people needed for a book or film discussion is really small. I can’t help but still feel confounded by my difficulty with finding such a discussion about a specific book or film on the internet.
One area I haven’t address is the difficulties to joining a discussion. not just online but in person as well. Meeting with people you don’t know, at the very least, creates some level of anxiety. For the gregarious individuals, this may not be much of an obstacles, but for others this may be a significant barrier not worth overcoming. For many I suspect that discussions are just as much the relationship with participants as it is the actual subjective matter, and the former may be more important for many people. Meeting people who want to discuss the book one just read wouldn’t be appealing if the people themselves were unappealing in some significant way.
These obstacles may be removed or greatly reduced if prospective participants could have a good idea beforehand if they would like the group. But I’m not sure there is a way to do this.
To be continued…